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Ronin49
post Sep 10 2004, 02:52 PM
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I know a number of us have been archiving threads from the old Mod Forums, both before and since the move.

redwoodtreesprite has a thread going and seems to be archiving mainly TESC-related tips --->Archiving Threads, List and Looking for Archivers. Check this thread to see what has already been saved on redwoodtreesprite's site.

Since the move, I have been trying to pull more useful and interesting mod threads off the old mod forums before they are gone. I have the impression that many threads are already no longer available.

The fact is there are not enough hours due to the usual other commitments that we all face. So I am asking for some help in order to retain as many valuable threads as possible.

I suggest archiving the threads is the priority. We can swap them around between ourselves and get them posted somewhere at a more leisurely pace but they need archiving NOW.

I have been using the method suggested by DinkumThinkum in this thread:
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If you're using Internet Explorer (don't know about other browsers) why not just use 'File | Save As'? That gives you options for saving the current web page as a text file or in a couple of different HTML formats. I usually use MHT, since that saves the whole thing in a single file, along with the icons, etc. Text works too, if that's all you want.

Just make sure you have the whole thread displayed before saving: if it's more than one page, click the 'All' link to get the whole thread at once.

Proposal:

1. As many folk as possible start archiving now, in MHT format ,those threads that they deem to be useful. If 'everyone' does a couple it will take no time at all and it will save what's left of the electronic mod information library.
[Note: The old links do not work. You have to re-search. Not all user names are there anymore either.]

2. As we archive a thread we post it here - simply exact title and what it is about as they are often not the same thing - including what we already have saved. Author's or thread originator's name if relevant and possible.
[Hypothetical example: "Alien butt plugs" - cleaning savegame with TESAME.]
There will be some duplication but a quick scroll through this thread should indicate what does not need doing again.

3. We use PMs to request a copy from someone else based on the posts here and as consolidated pages are developed we also post them here as redwoodtreesprite is already doing in her TESC-related thread.
[The current emphasis though should be on collection, not distribution]

That's my suggested plan of how to deal with this uncertain situation. Any thoughts? Agreement? Help? Names and content of threads already saved?


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post Sep 10 2004, 03:12 PM
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Here's what I've done so far:

Clearing Vertex Shading

Fitting Static Pieces Together

Fitting Doors to Buildings

Making a Door That Needs a Key

Water in Interior Cells

Weather in Interior Cells

Water Walking Creatures

Placing and Moving Creatures

Creature Sounds - Default Roar Fix

Making Merchants and Merchant Guards

Making a Merchant's Possessions Unsellable

Dialogue Box Too Big

Adding Topic to NPC

Merging - Cells Added When Merging Mods

Vampire Heads for Custom Races

(I wasn't keeping track of thread titles at the time I did these, but I will post the exact titles of the ones I archive from now on.)


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post Sep 10 2004, 03:14 PM
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i don't know if anyone has asked...i wonder if Beth would be willing to send the old forums to someone with server space.


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post Sep 10 2004, 03:18 PM
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I am able to lend add-free webspace, I just don't have much time or ability to make the pages. So if people can make the archives and put them to a html document (or whatever, I really don't know much of anything about that stuff) I can upload it to my space. I would be EXTREAMLY interested in hosting any and all information reguarding making buildings, landscapes, sities, lighting and such.
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post Sep 10 2004, 03:23 PM
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Here are the threads from the old Mod Forum that I have already saved:

Bounty for blighted creatures -

Buyable alchemy sorter

Haunted tombs -

Almost finished genie companion etc -

Cid88's List of Necromancy and Vampire mods -

Clean Mods_DIALOGUE!!

Concise List of WIPs

creature packs

Dwemer

Free mod hosting

Give Your Orders Problem _Doors=Death

Gold Weight Bug

How dod I organize my mods?

How to play 2149 mods!!!!

Mage Mods 8-2004

Mod Conflicts - responsibiites etec . . .

Morrowind Inhabitants

Needed mod installation tutorial -

Purging unneeded data from finished quest mod -

TESTool merged list question- a problem -

The darker side of Morrowind -

Thief/assassin armor -

Uncleanable and or unmergeable mods list


Threads I am especially looking for:

- TypoPanther's thread about basic mods 'noobie question' or similar title.

-Female Armour

- How to: Turn Morrowind into Daggerfall (somewhat).

- Cleaning Dirty Saves by DinkumThinkum, Nigedo and Argent -

- Help With Removing Mods and Anyone Successfully Cleaned a Save? -

- Merging a large number of mods successfully -

- Using the CS to delete items from a mod

- Framerate Killers

- Mods, Gameplay and Game Performance

- Using TESTool With Multiple Installations .

- On resetting the world map by GhanBuriGhan

- Favorite Companion Mod ?

- Searching for Assassin/Archer/Ranger Mods

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post Sep 10 2004, 11:33 PM
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Found and saved:

Pinned - Links to Compatible List & More - by Iamhere




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post Sep 11 2004, 12:12 AM
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Not old threads, but I'm starting to put a reply on any of the threads here that I've archived. I think it's a good idea. If everyone does this, we'll know which of the good new threads have also been saved.

Oh, and as I have made a template for my archived threads pages, it usually takes only a minute or two per page to make. So if a thread has only a few paragraphs, I'll do it that way. Long threads I will save via the method described above...

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post Sep 11 2004, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Sep 10 2004, 03:23 PM)
Threads I am especially looking for:
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I have HTML (not MHT) archives from 26-AUG-2004 of the following threads you've listed;

Anyone successfully cleaned a save.htm
Help with removing mods.htm
Merging a large number of mods succesfuly.htm
On resetting the world map.htm
Using TESTool with multiple installations - Help!.htm

I also have a variety of stuff from the CS thread, but I'll have to go through it to eliminate the dross.

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post Sep 11 2004, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Sep 10 2004, 12:52 AM)
I know a number of us have been archiving threads from the old Mod Forums, both before and since the move.


I suggest archiving the threads is the priority. We can swap them around between ourselves and get them posted somewhere at a more leisurely pace but they need archiving NOW.


I highly agree with you. I have been archiving some threads, and I will try to pick up the pace, as I believe they will all dissapear at a time of 30 days from the last post to them. This is why so many are gone already.

I will try to spend several hours this week-end working on archiving.


EDIT:
I have been just grabbing stuff that looked interesting, so I don't know what all I have yet. And unfortunately it is all in notepad format. I will switch to the other format and try to grab stuff that others havn't allready indicated that they have.

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post Sep 11 2004, 01:48 AM
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Let me offer an operational suggestion:
Find the thread you want to archive, if it is more than one page long, click the SHOW ALL option. Scroll to the very bottom of the thread and in the lower right corner is a clickable option for PRINT.
Select that and you get a reformatted COMPLETE thread that you can save in one click to anyplace you wish on your harddrive.
If you save as WebPage complete, you get a nicely structured subfolder with any of the icons, images in a subfolder and the whole thread readable.
I have done this with three of the threads of interest to myself.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/ubb...ds.php?Cat=&C=5 = link to the all forums list.

http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/pos...Cat=&Board=UBB7
link to the old mods forum

http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/pos...tesconstsethelp link to the TESCS forum

http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/pos...Cat=&Board=UBB4
link to the Lore Forum

If you select the Show From all Dates option there will be 142 pages with 2827 threads in the mods forum.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/pos...psed&sb=5&o=all last page with the locked old pinned threads.

In the TESCS forum 45 pages with 895 threads.
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/pos...psed&sb=5&o=all

So very very much has been lost.
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post Sep 11 2004, 03:33 AM
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Here's what I've just archived:

Blocked NPCs
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/sho...=5&o=31&fpart=1
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...BlockedNPCs.htm
Blocked NPCs


http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/sho...=5&o=31&fpart=1
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...Screenshots.htm
Taking Screenshots

Uhhh....
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/sho...=5&o=31&fpart=1
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...CS_Controls.htm
Construction Set Controls

How is an item's level decided?
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/sho...=5&o=31&fpart=1
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...ttingLevels.htm
Setting/Changing Levels in Leveled Lists

Getting Npcs to "follow" you?
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/sho...=5&o=31&fpart=1
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...ollowScript.htm
NPCs - Follow Dialogue and Script

I want it to storm constantly: How can I do it?
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/sho...=5&o=31&fpart=1
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...gs-Constant.htm
Weather Settings - Constant

'latest rumors' help
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/sho...=5&o=31&fpart=1
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...tRumorTopic.htm
Dialogue - Latest Rumor Topic

(The first title is the thread title. The second title is the name I gave the thread archive page.)

EDIT: Here's 2 more:

TESAME & Textures
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/sho...5&o=365&fpart=1
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...ureChanges_.htm
TESAME Adding Textures as Altered When They're Not

How Do you Write Books For Morrowind?
http://www.elderscrolls.com/ubbthreads/sho...5&o=365&fpart=1
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...InMorrowind.htm
Books - Writing and Putting in ESP

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I seem to have reached the end of what's in the Construction Set Forum. There's a listiing for 8/02.04, then ones for 7/05/04, 2/25/04, 2/12/04, 10/16/03, 10/02/03, and 9/26/03. Is this it? Or is there some way to still get to some of the other threads?

I'll try some searches to see...

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post Sep 11 2004, 04:38 AM
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Searches will get more threads, but so many have disappeared. Is everyone else getting this for the last threads in the Construction Set Forum when going backwards:

8/02.04, then ones for 7/05/04, 2/25/04, 2/12/04, 10/16/03, 10/02/03, and 9/26/03

If so, it looks like searches are the only way to access the other threads. If this is the case, I propose we pick areas to search, and post them here so the searches won't be duplicated. I'm going to start with ones related to making races, as that's an area I'm really into, creatures, fitting pieces together. bulding interior cells and interiors as exteriors. Also, ones relating to disappearing doors and NPCs. That should keep me busy for a while...

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post Sep 11 2004, 07:57 AM
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Sigh... It looks like most everything's already gone before August. I got almost nothing from my searches. Here's a few more archives though:

Why does my NPC disappear
08/06/04
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...s-Interiors.htm
Disappearing NPCs in Interior Cells - Possible Causes

Slidey slidey slowly doorey
08/06/04
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...Door_Script.htm
Sliding Door Script

help with animations
08/05/04
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...NeededFiles.htm
Retextured Creatures - Files Needed

Running into a problem placing a creature in-world.
8/03/04
http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...tRecognized.htm
Creature Animations not Recognized

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I'm going to start searching the mod forums now for modder resource threads.


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post Sep 11 2004, 04:53 PM
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Thanks to all who posted and have contributed so far.

And to others reading this, we could do with a little help here folks, please.

Tip: For a lot of this, there are better results from scrolling back through a user's previous posts than through search.

kwshipman - I hear you. And I am interested in having this material available on several sites to provide redundancy, so will be quite happy to provide copies of any and all once collection is not quite so key. Do you have any saved threads to post here?

OldeCow69 - Great. I will come calling for a copy of those later, thanks.

Eveeran_Knight - What have you got?

redwoodtreesprite - Well done. It is hard to keep up to you! PM to follow.

Saved:

Deleting NPC inventory - why doesn't it work?

[WIP] A Simple Leveling Mod

Some information from the C&EO on the Census

Diseases and Immunities and balance

House mods and alchemy rooms

On resetting the world map

Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD.

TESfaith: New utility to move/duplicate landmasses.

Comprehensive Dialogue for Morrowind - The "How-To" Thread:

WIP Undernourished NPC's

You vote: "Starter" mod list

[REL] AZ Interface - scripted text interface - choose any letters (BETA)

Creating an icon tutorial

Review: Sorefoot Enterprizes

Turn Undead

Thief Improvement Mods.

world map for landmass

Cliff Racer Mods - Conflicts?

What is a lich?

[WIP] Following Attackers

Morrowind fansites and forums announced here

It is not mined out yet. smile.gif





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post Sep 12 2004, 02:59 AM
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OK, I'll beg. Could some other mod-users and Forum-frequenters please help out a bit? If a lotta folk grabbed one or two useful threads each we would have 'saved the library' in no time. Appreciated . . .


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post Sep 12 2004, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Sep 11 2004, 11:59 AM)
OK, I'll beg. Could some other mod-users and Forum-frequenters please help out a bit? If a lotta folk grabbed one or two useful threads each we would have 'saved the library' in no time. Appreciated . . .
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I'm going to be focussing for now on wings and other accessories, animation, creatures, bulding models, water models, new races and heads and hair. In the Morrowind Mods forum.

A couple good resource areas for someone to search would be:

textures/texture packs
new and retextured furniture and other resources

I know there were a lot of these. And I wish now that I'd saved the threads instead of just marking them as favorites...


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post Sep 12 2004, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(redwoodtreesprite @ Sep 11 2004, 02:25 PM)
I'm going to be focussing for now on wings and other accessories, animation, creatures, bulding models, water models, new races and heads and hair.    In the Morrowind Mods forum. 

A couple good resource areas for someone to search would be:

textures/texture packs
new and retextured furniture and other resources

I know there were a lot of these.  And I wish now that I'd saved the threads instead of just marking them as favorites...
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Yeah, I feel the same way. To bad a lot of the ones I had marked are already missing.
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I have been searching for a lot of specific stuff, but most of it's gone already, apparently.

I will go look for textures now.


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QUOTE(Eveeran_Knight @ Sep 11 2004, 05:19 PM)
Yeah, I feel the same way.  To bad a lot of the ones I had marked are already missing.
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I have been searching for a lot of specific stuff, but most of it's gone already, apparently.

  I will go look for textures now.
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At least I've saved the modder permission areas of threads as much as I could. Lots of little folders under modder names, with the downloads, screenshots and a wordpad document. Prob is, I got in the habit of marking as favorite, with the intention of going over the thread more carefully later...

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Here's what I saved in the "save as html" format today (and thanks so much to Iudas for the tips. It's a real time-saver.) smile.gif

Character Animation Revealed...

[Advice] Modders and leveled lists
[REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool
TESTool Merged list question - a problem?

Animation questions (TES & Scripts)

Creating an icon tutorial

Draw Bridge

For people thinking about starting TCs.

I need help modeling a face in 3DS Max...

MW plays MIDI Files!!!

Quivers

Requesting that everyone brighten their screenshots before posting!

Resources to story makers

What makes a quest a good one?

[WIP] Japanese/Akaviri half-conversion



They're all from the last half of August.


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I don't know if this is a good idea or not but perhaps you could put a out a blanket request for modders to re-post their most recent releases in this forum.

It might preserve a lot of the realease threads without having to go back and physically archive them yourself AND start making THIS forum a decent database worth searching.
Of course that wouldn't get everyone but it might save some headaches.

Just a crazy idea . . . .

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post Sep 12 2004, 11:35 AM
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redwoodtreesprite - Thanks. We now have some minor duplication from today's efforts as you will see below but that's OK too.

Sabregirl -
"I don't know if this is a good idea or not but perhaps you could put a out a blanket request for modders to re-post their most recent releases in this forum.
It might preserve a lot of the release threads without having to go back and physically archive them yourself AND start making THIS forum a decent database worth searching. Of course that wouldn't get everyone but it might save some headaches."


I think mod makers re-posting their release threads is an excellent idea, provided they have them to re-post. A few have done so and lochnarus posted a complete summary which I thought was extremely useful. It would help if that caught on, soon.


Saved:

Morrowind Inhabitants - beyond Beta?

(REL) ARTUZU 4.2A

Morrowind Economy/Adventurers mod v0.3

List of celebrity face mods

Replacing a dead NPC (killed her, need her back)?

Quivers

For people thinking about starting TCs.

Requesting that everyone brighten their screenshots before posting!

How do i change my already existing characters face and hair?

help! how do i uninstall this? [visual pack]

Searching for Interesting Gadget Mods

WIP Undernourished NPCs

[REL] Animated and Breakable Practice Dummies

Donating Excess Wealth- Is there such a mod?

Dwemer

Problem with Snapcase's ArmsTrader mod

Head Replacers

Majra's Community Resources

Pickpockets

Dual-Weild

Looking for a mod to make the game a bit harder



I now find only 39 pages of backthreads with the first entry of about #2918072 - 08/11/04 09:22 PM.

Does anyone else have anything archived? I had the impression a number of people were doing this before the forum change.

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I probably wasted to much time trying to find specific threads which weren't there, but I have been trying to glean some threads I thought potentially useful. I have been reading each thread, but I think tomarrow I may just start grabbing and saving and check later.

Saved, some in text format and some later in HTML complete.

CharGen Revamped 1.0
Best practice for using RemoveItem
New Player Movement Animations
3Dmax and future crates
A few basic questions
a TESTool WARNING to users of this tool
Advanced Script Help Needed
Another question, this time reguarding textures
Any EASY way to REORDER plugins?
Astrology-influenced magic
Change PCs hair and head without CTD
Changing the function of magic affects
ChilliSkinner
Companion Levitating won't follow through teleport door
Deleting NPC inventory, why won't it work
Emma's Toddlers and Teenagers need Voices
Fish4Morrowind
Fixing bugged constant effects
Free new textures
Getting NPC base skills or stats
Guar_Saddles 2
Here are links to .DDS, TGA, NIF 3D programs and plugins
Kaos_nyrb's Scripying Library
KW's List of House Mods
Lights turn on at night
Mad_Max's_Horse_Riding_Script
Modeling and exporting, a few questions
Multiple Mark Mess
MW Plays MIDI Files
NIF Exporter for MilkShape
Plug-ins don't show up in CS
REL-Leveled List Resequencer V1.0 for TESTool
Realistic Boat Rides
SirLuthor's Boots
TESAME Question
TESTool Merged List Question
The 600,000 Faces and Armors of Morrowind
Visual Packs That Won't Kill My FPS
What did I do wrong this time - Mannequins
WIP - Pirates of the High Islands
WIP - Merchand Mod - Thread 2
WIP - Solstheim Castle t2
WIP - Vibrant Morrowind continued (screens)

Hope I havent done to much duplicating. I'm just trying to grab quick.





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post Sep 12 2004, 01:29 PM
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I wouldn't worry about it at this point. More important to get them saved; the rest we can sort out afterward.



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post Sep 14 2004, 04:03 AM
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Phew! Finished searching for all threads with these words:

wings accessory accessories animation wing creature model building water head hair

Here's what I archived:

Replacing beast animations with werewolf animations

ini tweaks

[REL] Tetris

what is a nif file

GMSTs: What do they do?

Possibly new Discovery within CS

kw's List of House Mods

Soul Gem Capacity

[REL] The Night Gallery - Furniture, Clothing and Collectibles

[REL]Kyodin Armor v1.3 + house!+samurai companions!+sheath!

[REL] Endless Adventures: Primal

[REL] Animated and Breakable Practice Dummies

[REL] Meteors

[REL] Azriel the Merchant V.2 [sheaths, wings and swords]

Comprehensive Dialogue for Morrowind - The "How-To" Thread

Character Animation Revealed...

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I also found a really nice mini-tut on Making NPCs Lie Down that I made a tip page for here:

http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/M...NPCsLieDown.htm



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post Sep 14 2004, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(redwoodtreesprite @ Sep 13 2004, 02:03 PM)
Phew!  Finished searching for all threads with these words:


Thanks for posting those, redwoodtreesprite.
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QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Sep 13 2004, 08:37 PM)
Thanks for posting those, redwoodtreesprite.
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I found a thread on my HD this morning that I thought had been lost forever. It is the Balancing Spells thread from 2002, 20+ pages 2.3mb. This is the thread that led to Wakim's Game Improvements, LDone's Theif Enhanced Mods and many other things. If someone wants it PM me an email addy that will accept large attachments. It will probably have to be reformatted.
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QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Sep 14 2004, 10:37 AM)
Thanks for posting those, redwoodtreesprite.
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My apologies, I've been to busy swiping stuff to document what I've already got. blush.gif

But you've shamed me into pulling it into some semblance of order;

OldeCow69's Elderscrolls III Forum Backup List

There'll be some duplicates & assorted irrelevant material amongst it, but that's about the best I can do at this point.

Now back to the swiping!

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QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Sep 13 2004, 08:37 PM)
Thanks for posting those, redwoodtreesprite.
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I am also gleaning the threads that I think might be useful in the Morrowind Mods forum, trying to examine and save from oldest to newest, staying a couple of jumps ahead of oblivion (as in deletion). biggrin.gif


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OldeCow69, Eveeran_Knight - Thank you. I agree that we can consolidate what we have when everyone comes up for air.

Iudas- Now that is great news. That thread was thought lost. PMed you.

By the way, Grumpy's Mod Installation Tutorial is now up, archived on Emma's site for the benefit of all. Thanks, Emma.


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QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Sep 15 2004, 05:42 AM)
OldeCow69, Eveeran_Knight - Thank you. I agree that we can consolidate what we have when everyone comes up for air.

Iudas- Now that is great news. That thread was thought lost. PMed you.

By the way, Grumpy's Mod Installation Tutorial is now up, archived on Emma's site for the benefit of all. Thanks, Emma.
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On the Balancing spells thread, I have emailed you the 20 pages I have of it, I think that is all there was except for a few bump posts.
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Progress update -

Since I started out to save every thread that was left on the General Construction Set forum, I have rescued 198 out of 500. I have about 300 to go.
I am working from oldest to newest because the oldest ones are dissapearing first. I am doing about 40 a day to stay ahead of "The Oblivion Monster".

I have also rescued 18 more threads from the Morrowind Mods forum. I am looking at about 100 threads a day there to stay ahead of the monster, but of corse many of those threads don't need to be preserved, so I am saving the ones which seem like they might have some potentually useful information in them that isn't already on the new forums, or that may not become available again.


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You guys rock. I feel like I'm witnessing the sinking of Atlantis.

Or the Library of Alexander, just before it was sacked.

Or "Fahrenheit 411."

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QUOTE(Cenobite @ Sep 17 2004, 09:44 PM)

I feel like I'm witnessing the sinking of Atlantis.
Or the Library of Alexander, just before it was sacked.
Or "Fahrenheit 411."

To me it feels more like after the sinking or sacking - picking up survivors or pawing through the rubble . . . meh. But the thought is appreciated. smile.gif

Business, o' ye collectors: I seem to have 'lost' the connection to Illuminated Order Mod Secrets - Official Post , nor do I have a saved copy.

If anyone managed to save this, in whatever format, could you please let me know, by PM possibly, as I have need of it before we get to 'The Great Consolidation and Thread Market.'


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Looks like I may be offline for about 10 days. I'm going to upload all the saved pages to my briefcase and put the link here in a bit, so anyone can access them.

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O.K.,
I'm finished saving all the threads that were still in the General Construction Set forum as of the fifteenth of this month. Whew! What a marathon, there were hundreds of them. So I now have about 44MB of archived threads from that forum, plus quite a few from the Mods forum.
Will take a rest, then figure out what to do with them. I am going to write them to a CD tomarrow, so they dont get lost.
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Well, at midnight in the eastern time zone of the U.S.A. which I believe is 5 or 6 AM GMT tomarrow morning, the last threads on the old forums will die a silent death. If there is anything still there that you wish to preserve and havn't yet, you'd better grab it within the next few hours. Hopefully everything that might prove useful and that hasn't been replaced with something newer has been preserved, but it wouldn't hurt to take a final look as many popular threads were posted to on the last day of the old forums (August 31) and thus are still alive for this ONE LAST DAY.

LAST CALL, folks!

Kiss the old forums goodbye, and all unsaved threads also.

There are many fond memories there, and what I wouldn't give to have some of the valuable threads which were posted there in the past years safe on a CD. Oh, well...

Goodbye, old friend,

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QUOTE(Eveeran_Knight @ Oct 1 2004, 11:06 AM)
Well, at midnight in the eastern time zone of the U.S.A. which I believe is 5 or 6 AM GMT tomarrow morning, the last threads on the old forums will die a silent death.  If there is anything still there that you wish to preserve and havn't yet, you'd better grab it within the next few hours.  Hopefully everything that might prove useful and that hasn't been replaced with something newer has been preserved, but it wouldn't hurt to take a final look as many popular threads were posted to on the last day of the old forums (August 31) and thus are still alive for this ONE LAST DAY.

  LAST CALL, folks!

  Kiss the old forums goodbye, and all unsaved threads also.

  There are many fond memories there, and what I wouldn't give to have some of the valuable threads which were posted there in the past years safe on a CD.  Oh, well...

Goodbye, old friend,

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They are all still there, just change the view from Active in the last month to Show all dates. Active in the last month is the default view for the old forums and of course none of the threads have been active.
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QUOTE(Iudas @ Oct 1 2004, 11:50 AM)
They are all still there, just change the view from Active in the last month to Show all dates.  Active in the last month is the default view for the old forums and of course none of the threads have been active.
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I wish that were true, but everything over 60 days old is gone (except for a handfull of special archived ones). And the rest will be gone.

It is my understanding that we were given 30 days, and then either we would lose access or the threads would be gone. Even if they aren't removed en-mass or we don't lose access to them, they will disappear as they reach the 60 day age limit. At the moment you will find that all threads before August 02 of this year are gone, except for a chosen few which were apparently selected to be arxhived.

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QUOTE(Eveeran_Knight @ Oct 1 2004, 07:21 PM)
I wish that were true, but everything over 60 days old is gone (except for a handfull of special archived ones).  And the rest will be gone.

It is my understanding that we were given 30 days, and then either we would lose access or the threads would be gone.  Even if they aren't removed en-mass or we don't lose access to them, they will disappear as they reach the 60 day age limit.  At the moment you will find that all threads before August  02 of this year are gone, except for a chosen few which were apparently selected to be arxhived.

So I reiterate, read them and grab them while you can, folks.
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You are correct that they should be vacuumed while the forums still exist. My point was only that the threads are still there one just has to change one's viewing choice to see them. They could wipe-out the old forums at any time, but they haven't wiped a single thing since the changover....yet.
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Well, I would guess that any of us who were busy archiving are probably long done with that.

Would any of those folk who archived threads from the old forums care to post links to the sites where you may have made the archived threads available to others?

It would be good if we could summarize these as a resource for others.


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QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Jan 1 2005, 09:25 PM)
Well, I would guess that any of us who were busy archiving are probably long done with that.

Would any of those folk who archived threads from the old forums care to post links to the sites where you may have made the archived threads available to others?

It would be good if we could summarize these as a resource for others.
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QUOTE(Iudas @ Sep 14 2004, 05:46 AM)
I found a thread on my HD this morning that I thought had been lost forever.  It is the Balancing Spells thread from 2002,  20+ pages 2.3mb.  This is the thread that led to Wakim's Game Improvements, LDone's Theif Enhanced Mods and many other things.  If someone wants it PM me an email addy that will accept large attachments.  It will probably have to be reformatted.
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Eveeran_Knight - ditto and I am working on trying to find a permanent, usable home for them. Part of the reason I bumped up this old thread in fact. Good to see you around.

Glad it helped, Kellick Stormcrow. That is exactly why I would like to have this 'stuff' collected and organized on one or more publicly accessible sites. Preferably more than one because I think some redundancy is a good thing for the community, as all the recent download site outages well demonstrate.


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QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Jan 2 2005, 12:45 PM)
Glad it helped, Kellick Stormcrow. That is exactly why I would like to have this 'stuff' collected and organized on one or more publicly accessible sites. Preferably more than one because I think some redundancy is a good thing for the community, as all the recent download site outages well demonstrate.
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If you want, I could use some of my webspace for this. I've got plenty of web space with my host that isn't being used for much now anyway. (Not much danger of my site ever going down for more than a couple of hours, since I now keep backups of everything, including the databases for the forums and the main site. wink.gif)

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QUOTE(baratheon79 @ Jan 2 2005, 02:01 PM)
If you want, I could use some of my webspace for this.
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I still have all the archived threads I did here in my briefcase:

http://f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/redwoodtreesprite
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Mostly saved as webpages.


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Well, I don't have the webspace to put my stuff up, but if you can come up with somewhere Ronin49 I'd be happy to upload it when I'm back at base.


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I wonder if it is possible to convert the entire old forum into a text-only document, then zip it and store it somewhere online...


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It might be possible to write a script(s) to dump the database to file, but the file would be huge, and I don't like the chances of the Admins doing all that work.

The other issue is that we have a lot of stuff archived that's been deleted from their database already.

Finally, a lot of the stuff in the database is rubbish which one wouldn't really want to keep for ever?


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baratheon79 has generously agreed to host the archives of saved threads and will probably be back here to post links to it once we have the material uploaded and he has had a chance to sort it out.

For those folk who saved threads here is the upload information for the directory where baratheon79 asks that we upload them:
Account info for uploading:
FTP address: 65.254.51.50 (This is the static IP address of the host server)
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User name: es-ftp@rpgmods.com
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You will you need an FTP client programme; link ---> Uploading at RPG Mods Forums.

So please, if you have material saved from the old forums, check in with baratheon79 and get it uploaded so we can all use it. Subsequently, we may want to look at duplicating these archives but for now at least, let's get it all organized and accessible in one place.

And to baratheon79 - kudos for this community service and thanks for your help and support!


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Not a problem.

As for anyone visiting the link Ronin posted above (to the sticky thread in my forums), you can disregard the restrictions for uploading with that account in this particular case. The web archives may not be mods, but I'm making an exception (I own the site, so I can do that biggrin.gif) to save myself some time.


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Excellent, thanks to both of you for following this up, and providing the space respectively.

Do we have any guidelines for what material goes up, a prefered format, or avoiding duplication, or are we more interested in just getting the stuff up somewhere at this stage?


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Excellent, thanks to both of you for following this up, and providing the space respectively.

Do we have any guidelines for what material goes up, a prefered format, or avoiding duplication, or are we more interested in just getting the stuff up somewhere at this stage?
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For now, just getting the stuff up is the priority. As far as the format, Ronin49's archives are in .mht format, and redwoodtreesprite's are just standard html pages with an accompanying folder containing the images for each thread. Either way will work just fine.

As far as "avoiding duplication" is concerned, since I'll be spending the next few days on what I've got so far, that shouldn't be a problem. I'll be actually glancing through each old thread myself anyway, to try to figure out which forum they came from, so they can be organized on the link page accordingly. Though, in the case of the ones from redwoodtreesprite, I'll have to make an educated guess based on the subject and content of the threads.

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QUOTE(baratheon79 @ Jan 11 2005, 12:29 PM)
. . . I'll be spending the next few days on what I've got so far . . . . I'll be actually glancing through each old thread myself anyway, to try to figure out which forum they came from, so they can be organized on the link page accordingly. . . 
And that is the contribution on the part of Baratheon79 beyond mere webspace that should not go unnoticed by the community. This kind of work takes time and effort to get it right.

Hopefully, Eveeran_Knight will cue-in on the upload and keep you busy for a few minutes more - hehe.


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QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Jan 11 2005, 12:19 AM)
For those folk who saved threads here is the upload information for the directory where baratheon79 asks that we upload them:
Account info for uploading:
FTP address: 65.254.51.50 (This is the static IP address of the host server)
ftp:es-ftp@rpgmods.com
User name: es-ftp@rpgmods.com
Password: oblivion

You will you need an FTP client programme; link ---> Uploading at RPG Mods Forums.
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I don't understand any of that. I checked the link, but was not enlightened . I have 80-some files (over 3 Meg) of mostly construction set forum threads converted to Word documents that I would be happy to contribute to the cause, if I could figure out how. The threads have been edited by me to strip away everything except the poster's name and the post. In few cases, I eliminated entire posts that were off-topic or didn't advance the thread in a useful way. If it is deemed that this treatment would offend some of the original posters, then perhaps it would be better to keep them for my own use only.
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I have a question. Is the upload site only for threads from the old forum, or can we submit threads from both old and new?


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QUOTE(Cenobite @ Jan 11 2005, 10:40 PM)
. . .  Is the upload site only for threads from the old forum, or can we submit threads from both old and new?
Subject to baratheon79's agreement, both old and new I would hope - reason for archiving new forum threads being to retain them somewhere safe and usable and avoid the possibility of auto-pruning.


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QUOTE(Ronin49 @ Jan 11 2005, 11:19 PM)
Subject to baratheon79's agreement, both old and new I would hope - reason for archiving new forum threads being to retain them somewhere safe and usable and avoid the possibility of auto-pruning.
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For now, I'm really only concerned about the archived threads from the old forum. For the moment, that's going to keep me busy for awhile with just what's been uploaded so far. Especially since I'm also trying to finish up my current mod project as well.

One issue I ran into, however, is that I'm having to convert the .mht files into another format to make them more browser friendly. Sure, they load fine from my own hard drive, but I had problems getting them to load from the server.

Once I have the page with all the links coded (I could just set everything up through the PHP-Nuke portal or my own forums, but I'm trying to keep it simple to put up elsewhere too), I'll probably also zip up the final product using 7zip and upload it so it can be put up elsewhere fairly easily.

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Well, we are about to achieve some duplication of sources for archived threads and material as we have just opened The Archives at Mythic Mods, primarily due to the contribution made by OldeCow69.
These are infant Archives at the moment - provisional, under construction and incomplete but open.

Thanks to all the folk who have made saved threads and material available - much of it is yet to get uploaded and we are still hoping to collect those threads saved by a number of other folk.
We too are finding some of the challenges a trifle tedious but the Archives are open and will get filled out as we work through some of the similar format and transfer issues with which Baratheon79 is dealing.

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post Feb 8 2005, 04:16 PM
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I still learn stuff reading those old threads in the Archives. Thanks for putting this all together.

And welcome to hell, Oldecow69, hehe. Or at least the MWMythicMods team...


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post Feb 8 2005, 08:06 PM
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Thanks Telesphoros, is it just me or is it warm in here? happy.gif


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Warm, sir, and likely to get a tad warmer now folk can see pruning really happen, perhaps? evillol.sml.gif


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