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[REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool
      #2980440 - 08/28/04 07:31 PM

This utility fixes the bug with TESTool's merged leveled lists reported in this thread.

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Here's the readme:

Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool
by aerelorn

Overview:

This utility fixes a bug in TESTool v1.3 by ghostwheel. As discovered by tru021 and later researched extensively by DinkumThinkum, when TESTOOL merges leveled lists it appends the lists one after another instead of sorting them all together by level. The result is that the items and creatures from later lists cannot appear until you're beyond the highest level listed in all the preceeding lists.

Since ghostwheel is currently MIA, this utility takes the Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp file created by TESTOOL and resequences the lists by level into the proper order. Hopefully he will return someday and make it obsolete.

Instructions:

1. Use TESTOOL to create the Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp file.

2. Place Leveled List Resequencer.exe in your /Morrowind/ or /Morrowind/Data Files/ directory and run it. When it's completed, it will let you know how many lists were resequenced out of the total. A file called Log - Resequencer.txt will be created if you want specific details on which lists were resequenced.

3. That's it, go play!

Credits:

Creator of TESTool: ghostwheel
Discovering the bug: tru021
Researching the bug: DinkumThinkum

Coding: aerelorn
Beta Testing: MeghanAJH, DinkumThinkum, BDWolf, Iudas, Vencha, Gravy, and Malhavoc

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2980447 - 08/28/04 07:33 PM

yesssssss you are the man. you are the OG this will fix a lot of already installed mods.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ninjagaidan1]
      #2980456 - 08/28/04 07:37 PM



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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2980472 - 08/28/04 07:40 PM

THanks Aerelorn!!!

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2980481 - 08/28/04 07:42 PM

wait a sec how much has this been tested.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ninjagaidan1]
      #2980500 - 08/28/04 07:48 PM

Quote:

wait a sec how much has this been tested.




Having gone through my own Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp yesterday in the CS and corrected everything by hand (which took me about 20 mins to do) I'm willing to try this out, especially if it does what it says it will in a lot less time than correcting it in the CS does!

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2980505 - 08/28/04 07:49 PM

Thank you, Aerelorn - impressively fast work! And thanks also to tru021, DinkumThinkum, MeghanAJH, BDWolf, Iudas, Vencha, Gravy, and Malhavoc who also helped make this important utility possible.



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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: Ronin49]
      #2980569 - 08/28/04 08:05 PM

Very impressive!



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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2980611 - 08/28/04 08:16 PM


As the Bible says: "The man who gives fast - gives twice"

Thank you, you are my hero:

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2980620 - 08/28/04 08:19 PM

Thank you

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2980749 - 08/28/04 08:52 PM

Thanks! I was watching that other thread. Since I'm just restarting MW and overly mod happy this utility is must have.



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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2980750 - 08/28/04 08:52 PM

Thank you very much

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: HechiceraWG]
      #2980816 - 08/28/04 09:05 PM

THANK YOU! I wasn't even aware of this MAJOR problem with the TESTool, and I've been using it for a few months now! Thank you so much, I'm sure my Morrowind experience will vastly improve now that I've run this amazing utility!

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: Mytor]
      #2980818 - 08/28/04 09:06 PM



Btw, no leveled lists required resequence.
Meaning that the set of plugins im using and the order i placed them makes testool plenty funcional

Just to be sure it was working tried another set and this time:
Sucess: 56 of 1273 leveled lists re-sequenced in file:

the main diff between the 2 sets. On the 1st I was only using 870 leveled lists on the 2nd i was using 1273 due to activation of several mods that add lots of leveled lists.




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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2980848 - 08/28/04 09:16 PM

aerelorn, you are a true star of this community. We would be poorer without your contributions. You are an inspiration to us all.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2980871 - 08/28/04 09:23 PM

^What he said.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2980919 - 08/28/04 09:32 PM

AWESOME....I have been following that thread every day in the hopes that some person with programming knowhow would step up to the plate and solve the problem and low and behold there he is. Thank you. BUMP

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2981199 - 08/28/04 11:00 PM

thanks aerlorn! Your speedy response is much appreciated!

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: MeghanAJH]
      #2981405 - 08/29/04 12:05 AM

Thanks again Aerlorn, I have become quite a fan of your work, and it amazed me how quickly you put this out there and fixed a major glare in a nessecarry tool many people use...

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: Vencha]
      #2981455 - 08/29/04 12:21 AM

Let me say (as many others have/will say) Thank You,

I didn't follow the previous posting about this issue. Though I've seen it remain near the top of my unread postings, and man did I ever intend on reading it..just never got around to it. Also like another stated I didn't even realize there was a problem with TESTooL until eariler tonight when I Dled this utility. Man I have to say big gaming difference.

I had noticed before that several creatures advertised in several Readmes never seemed to come out to play. I had always assumed I was either too low level..or somehow in the wrong place at the wrong time. Boy was I wrong. Not 5 min's after resequencing my LvL lists and playing did I see my first creature I had never seen before. And while the creature beat me about the head & shoulders until I passed out, and then passed into the afterlife, I was merry and quite pleased all the while!

So thank you for plugging a hole that few even realized had been leaking.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2981598 - 08/29/04 01:16 AM

First:

The unsung hero of this is tru021 : without his sharp eyes and recognition that something was wrong, followed by his investigation to see what was going on, there's no telling how long this serious bug might have been overlooked.

Second:

A big thank you to aerelorn for coming up with a solution so quickly. With Ghostwheel (the creator of TESTool) gone, aerelorn's add-on utility is a great way to solve the problem.

Third:

Gravy certainly deserves a mention , since I think he was the first to suggest an add-on utility along the lines of what aerelorn created.

Fourth:

Me?

1. I'm happily letting that other thread fade into oblivion, now that it's mission is done!

2. I'm trying to figure out where I was in various Morrowind-related projects before I got sidetracked by investigating this.

3. I'm looking forward to going to sleep without any more visions of leveled lists of sheep jumping over fences.

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As I posted in another thread:

I strongly recommend that modders who use leveled lists in their mods include information about using aerelorn's Resequencer in conjuction with TESTool's list merger function; otherwise, your mod probably won't work as you intended it for the people who download it.

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From posts here and in the other thread about this problem, plus other posts about mod problems in the past, it's becoming pretty obvious that some mods were broken for a lot of people (because of the TESTool problem), but most users didn't realize it: too many mods installed to know what was working and what wasn't, thinking they hadn't reached the right level or right situation to see creatures or items added by a mod, etc.

So I am very very glad that this has been resolved; now we just need to get the word out to modders and mod users about the need to use both TESTool and the Resequencer for any mods that use leveled lists.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2981727 - 08/29/04 02:09 AM

Yay, that was really quick and clean work, thank you very much, aerelorn.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2981741 - 08/29/04 02:15 AM

Thanks to everyone who worked to fix this !!!



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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2981987 - 08/29/04 04:03 AM

??????!!!!!!!!

Well that explains why the Mod I'm developing works on it's own but not when I add it to my normal play set of Mods.

Excellent work guys, and thanks for saving me the nightmare of trying to track down a fault that didn't make sense to me.



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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2982085 - 08/29/04 05:16 AM

I don't do this often, but you truly deserve this:

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2982294 - 08/29/04 07:44 AM

We owe you one aerelorn, DinkumThinkum and tru021.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: Neldor]
      #2982320 - 08/29/04 08:04 AM

This thread needs bumping, I nearly missed it.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2982585 - 08/29/04 10:34 AM

What can i say...Thanks a LOT!!
I bow to you!! bow bow bow
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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: Coztaz]
      #2982786 - 08/29/04 12:00 PM

Many thanks to Tru021, DinkumThinkum, Gravy and especially Aerelorn. And, indeed, to Ghostwheel for creating TESTool in the first place.

I'm just starting to replay morrowind, and this will give me the confidence to add LOTS of mods!



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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2983655 - 08/29/04 04:23 PM

Yes, if tru021 hadn't made the original thread who knows how long it would've been before someone else noticed and investigated it, if ever. But then the thread might have died permanently(especially with the upcoming forum change) if you hadn't resurrected it. So we're lucky on both counts.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2983676 - 08/29/04 04:27 PM

Way to go team! =P
I'll be one of the cheerleaders.

Take this, all of you. I still havn't found any Silt Striders in the Wild, but I have hope now.

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      #2983682 - 08/29/04 04:29 PM

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      #2984197 - 08/29/04 06:28 PM

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2984205 - 08/29/04 06:29 PM

Quote:

Way to go team! =P
I'll be one of the cheerleaders.

Take this, all of you. I still havn't found any Silt Striders in the Wild, but I have hope now.




Dude I did last night, my first one ever...scared the living death out of me. lol Great work again guys.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2984336 - 08/29/04 07:04 PM

Thank you! I was wondering why I wasn't getting MWA and Mephisto's Creatures after running them through TESTool.

BTW I had 77 out of 777 leveled list resequenced! Lucky number!

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2985288 - 08/29/04 11:59 PM

Quote:

now we just need to get the word out to modders and mod users about the need to use both TESTool and the Resequencer for any mods that use leveled lists.





As these forum threads are probably going to disappear soon, could someone make a webpage on how to merge one's mods correctly, with links to the websites with utility downloads/download pages? I'd like to include this on my website, but don't think I could do a good enough job of explaining the process.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2985637 - 08/30/04 03:26 AM

I disappear for a few days and this comes out. I echo all the previous thanks to Aerelorn for a swift and effective fix to the levelled list problem, at least it will save me time in fixing my playing lists.

And seeing my name in a mod readme, well I never thought I see the day.

Again many thanks to those who participated in identifying and fixing the problem.


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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2985807 - 08/30/04 05:53 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Way to go team! =P
I'll be one of the cheerleaders.

Take this, all of you. I still havn't found any Silt Striders in the Wild, but I have hope now.




Dude I did last night, my first one ever...scared the living death out of me. lol Great work again guys.




Yep, same, I was not expecting to see 1 in Seyda Nein on level 1 and another in the way to Caldera on same level.


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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2986003 - 08/30/04 08:38 AM

Quote:

This utility fixes the bug with TESTool's merged leveled lists reported in this thread.


Cheers.





Everyone has already Given Thanks, But i will add my own small thanks too!

I take it that this fix can be done at *any* time, no need to begin a new game?!

yes the other merge tool generated a zillion posts about that "one item or ten items in boxes/chests". not to be used.

now if Ghostweel, or someone, were to fix the dialogue merging in testool......

other wise testool is good to use.

thanks......

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      #2986813 - 08/30/04 02:55 PM

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: MeghanAJH]
      #2987147 - 08/30/04 04:23 PM

Cool, thanks for the utility.

I know someone PM'd Ghostwheel about the bug and didn't hear back, but has anyone subsequently PM'd him with a link to this thread in case he eventually checks his mail? Hopefully one day this fix can be integrated into the main TESTool utility.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: Stromgarde]
      #2988302 - 08/30/04 09:38 PM

If you use TESTool, you need this...

Thanks for the fix aerelorn! My thoughts echo Pseron Wyrd's quite closely.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: Telesphoros]
      #2988366 - 08/30/04 09:51 PM

I am truly in awe of the ingenuity and talents of the mod makers on this board. A problem is identified (and ample kudos to all involved who fettered out a serious issue with a much-used utility!) and within days a modder steps up and provides a solution.

This is definitely what this community is all about and makes me check in once a day to see what the creative minds that inhabit these treads have come up with next!

To Aerelorn, Tru021, DinkumThinkum and everyone else who made this much-needed fix a reality, you certainly have my gratitude! Thank you and keep up the amazing work!

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2989649 - 08/31/04 08:33 AM

Quote:

This utility fixes the bug with TESTool's merged leveled lists reported in





hi all.

I installed it last night, at level one, there were , of course, no changes.


but!

HEADS UP.....
there is a very small 'gotcha", that everyone is to be aware of!!


After I ran the Program, placing it in my data folder: there were 86 changed entries, i made a small Discovery.

that the testool, of COURSE , places, now, the "fixed" leveled list
into the middle of the mods, halfway down the list of mods!
Testool "LIKES" to do this: anytime that one diddles in any way with the merged three lists, they are automatically re-timed so that they are now up in the middle of the mods, not at the very very bottom where they are supposed to be!

You probably also have to "re-header stamp" the fixed leveled list too, as well as "re-time" it! Treat this "fixed" leveled list *as* a new mod!!


while i am at it, sports fans, i better ask one more question, here!
---what about the "leveled item/object list"? is this list, too, also merged in a similar way as to cause a miss-placing of game objects? there are mods that require its objects and items to be "just so", and if there is a problem with this item leveled list, there *might* be a need to have a re-sequencer for it, too!

so...oooks good.
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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: Stromgarde]
      #2989673 - 08/31/04 08:51 AM

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I know someone PM'd Ghostwheel about the bug and didn't hear back, but has anyone subsequently PM'd him with a link to this thread in case he eventually checks his mail? Hopefully one day this fix can be integrated into the main TESTool utility.





Good point.

Someone included a link to the other thread (with the problem analysis, etc. in it) in the first PM. Someone just sent another PM with a link to this thread.

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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2989709 - 08/31/04 09:13 AM

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that the testool, of COURSE , places, now, the "fixed" leveled list
into the middle of the mods, halfway down the list of mods!
Testool "LIKES" to do this: anytime that one diddles in any way with the merged three lists, they are automatically re-timed so that they are now up in the middle of the mods, not at the very very bottom where they are supposed to be!



By my rough count TESTool 1.3 does that every time. That is why I use ReorderPlugins - available at Morrowind Source - each time I use TESTool merge functions.

So, the new shuffle for me will be - check Data Files splashscreen, TESTool, Resequencer, ReorderPlugins, check Data Files screen ----> load.

But a pleasure to have it working properly.



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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2989856 - 08/31/04 10:25 AM

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I know someone PM'd Ghostwheel about the bug and didn't hear back, but has anyone subsequently PM'd him with a link to this thread in case he eventually checks his mail? Hopefully one day this fix can be integrated into the main TESTool utility.





Good point.

Someone included a link to the other thread (with the problem analysis, etc. in it) in the first PM. Someone just sent another PM with a link to this thread.




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Re: [REL] Leveled List Resequencer v1.0 for TESTool [Re: ]
      #2989980 - 08/31/04 11:13 AM

Nice work Aerolorn - I seem to have completely missed the thread exposing this problem with the leveled lists. Three cheers for everone involved .

Hopefully this will be the end of the slippery leveled list beast!

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