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Soul Gem Capacity
      #2825011 - 07/19/04 09:01 AM

I know that each creature has a soul value which decides which type of soul gem you need to capture thier souls.

1. Where can I find the capacity of the various soul gems?
2. Is it possible to change the capacity?
3. Is it possible to create new soul gems?



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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: slategrey]
      #2825030 - 07/19/04 09:10 AM

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sorry but like me also want to do things that actaully require hardcoding (damn! ) , like i want to make more sEffectSummonCreatureId's but i cant,

you can proably change the existing properties of the orignal soul gems capicties. wait a min a see

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: ]
      #2825045 - 07/19/04 09:17 AM

well i found out how to change how much you need for constant effect.
you need a soul with 400+ for constant effect -i can change that.

i also found out how to change the bounty for any type of crime - i can change this aswell

the others well................ im not so sure (probably hardcoding)

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: ]
      #2825048 - 07/19/04 09:20 AM

i also found some soulgem multiplyer varible?

do u want to know any of this ?????????

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: ]
      #2825117 - 07/19/04 09:49 AM

yes please, all information is good information

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: slategrey]
      #2825130 - 07/19/04 09:54 AM

under magic effects cs has this to say about soultrap

"Traps the soul of the target creature in the smallest empty soul gem in the caster's inventory, if the creature is killed during the effect's duration."

Does this mean if the only soul gem i have is a petty soulgem, I can trap a winged twilight in it? errr pretty sure thats not right.




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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: slategrey]
      #2825162 - 07/19/04 10:06 AM

sorry, ill post the rest later - me sleep now, night


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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: slategrey]
      #2825180 - 07/19/04 10:16 AM

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under magic effects cs has this to say about soultrap

"Traps the soul of the target creature in the smallest empty soul gem in the caster's inventory, if the creature is killed during the effect's duration."

Does this mean if the only soul gem i have is a petty soulgem, I can trap a winged twilight in it? errr pretty sure thats not right.





That should read "...the smallest empty soul gem in the caster's inventory that has the capacity to hold the creature's soul..."

Which is the way it works in the game...

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: ]
      #2825189 - 07/19/04 10:20 AM

Thanks dinkum......that gets me to the crux of the matter......what is the capacity of each of the soul gems?

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: slategrey]
      #2825199 - 07/19/04 10:26 AM

The capacity of a soul gem is 3 times its base cost. You can increase the capacity by either increasing the value of the gem or increasing the value of "fSoulGemMult" in Gameplay Settings.

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: slategrey]
      #2825206 - 07/19/04 10:29 AM

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Thanks dinkum......that gets me to the crux of the matter......what is the capacity of each of the soul gems?




It's a formula based on the value of a soul gem; editing that will change the capacity. See the GMST section of Scripting for Dummies for information about the multiplier (two GMSTs are related to soul gem use).

Also, I haven't tried it, but you might be able to create a new soul gem the way you do any other object. I'm guessing that you have to follow the same Object ID pattern as the other soul gems: i.e., just change the last part of the Object ID and leave the prefix alone.

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: slategrey]
      #2825312 - 07/19/04 11:12 AM

So you can't create new soulgems, but I think you can change the capacity of the soulgems. Try change the price of the soulgem. I think the capacity of soulgem depends on its cost. Try modify it.

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: Alchemist]
      #2825320 - 07/19/04 11:14 AM

So be patient. I go and try my idea and I will report back to you.

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: Alchemist]
      #2825344 - 07/19/04 11:25 AM

Okay, I'm done. The capacity IS DEPENDS ON THE PRICE of the soulgem. I changed the price of a petty soulgem and I can trapped a golden saint to its inside.

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: Alchemist]
      #2825387 - 07/19/04 11:42 AM

Quote:

Okay, I'm done. The capacity IS DEPENDS ON THE PRICE of the soulgem. I changed the price of a petty soulgem and I can trapped a golden saint to its inside.




you must have missed these two posts

Quote:

The capacity of a soul gem is 3 times its base cost. You can increase the capacity by either increasing the value of the gem or increasing the value of "fSoulGemMult" in Gameplay Settings.




Quote:

It's a formula based on the value of a soul gem; editing that will change the capacity. See the GMST section of Scripting for Dummies for information about the multiplier (two GMSTs are related to soul gem use).






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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: kwshipman]
      #2825405 - 07/19/04 11:47 AM

Yes, you are right. I want help to everyone... Eh...

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: Alchemist]
      #2825481 - 07/19/04 12:05 PM

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh exactly what I'm after. Thanks people. All becomes clear now.

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: slategrey]
      #2825499 - 07/19/04 12:09 PM

You are welcome but you can see I not the firs who explained it to you. But I'm happy to it is cleared for you.

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Re: Soul Gem Capacity [Re: Alchemist]
      #2827429 - 07/19/04 09:20 PM

sorry i didnt reply earlier but i hadnt properly slept in days.

they things i was going to mension have been already posted.


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Re: Soul Gem Capacity - Values & Charges [Re: slategrey]
      #2879020 - 08/02/04 12:48 PM

Just working on Joseph Curwen's "Pseudomonarchy of Creatures and Demons" (a detailed handbook listing the values and charges of all filled gems). Here's what I found out: Soul Gems - Values & Charges

Guess that's what you're looking for.

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