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Thepal
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Experiments with Targetted Scripts
      #2840186 - 07/23/04 03:37 PM

Hello boys and girls. Today we are experimenting with Targetted Global Scripts. As you can see, Targetted Script can access the NPC like a normal script *demonstrates with GetPos*

Ok, now let's see if they can access local variables.

*attempts*

Oh dear. It doesn't work. I don't suppose if anyone knows if Targetted scripts can access the variables in the objects local script? 'twould be most helpful (I'm trying to have multiple targetted scripts running on different NPCs at the same time, which means there need to be unique variables for each of them somewhere. Local ones would be easiest. I can do another way if I have to, but I'd prefer not).


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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: Thepal]
      #2840206 - 07/23/04 03:44 PM

Oh... My other way of doing it won't work. >_< Ok... Umm.... Ahah! I have another other way. Nevermind ^_^

Still, I'd prefer to use local script variables

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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: Thepal]
      #2840266 - 07/23/04 04:02 PM

Not sure how your problem is set up , but maybe you can set the values in the global script from the local ones:

set Global_script_name.variable to 1

You can use things like silent sounds and GetSoundPlaying to detect which script is running on your NPC.



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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: GhanBuriGhan]
      #2840302 - 07/23/04 04:11 PM

Ack.

Ack.

Ack.

You just made me realise something. The global script will only run through once per frame. I was thinking it would run for each NPC.

Oh well... back to the drawing board.

Unless it will run for each NPC.... I hate testing >_<

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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: Thepal]
      #2840385 - 07/23/04 04:45 PM

Grrr... only runs once. Can't even start and stop it for each NPC. Still only runs once. So much for a generic global script.

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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: Thepal]
      #2840390 - 07/23/04 04:46 PM

No, you're right. Only one copy of a global script can run at a time.

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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: ManaUser]
      #2840413 - 07/23/04 04:54 PM

That's really disappointing. I was hoping to create a cooking (among other things) script, and all I would have to do is start it on someone and they would start cooking. Now I'll have to put the code in the person's individual script (along with all the other things they can do)

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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: Thepal]
      #2840845 - 07/23/04 08:15 PM

You could just make clones of the global script like ArrilleCooking and MeldorCooking. I know it's a bit more bloated but it makes adding functionality to an NPC a lot more tidy. As long as you're sure to stop the global scripts when not needed it might be ok.

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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: TMTY_Lizard]
      #2840871 - 07/23/04 08:28 PM

That's true. I think I will do that.

It's annoying that I still need seperate ones though. Oh well

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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: Thepal]
      #2840876 - 07/23/04 08:32 PM

Will there ever be two such NPC that the player is close to at the same time? If not, you can just automatically stop the global script, e.g.when the player leaves the cell, or is a certain distance away. Then the global is available agin for the next cook the player encounters.

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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: GhanBuriGhan]
      #2840947 - 07/23/04 09:03 PM

I want to be safe and assume there could be.

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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: Thepal]
      #2841419 - 07/24/04 12:56 AM

You could still use something like my combat moves plugin with 3 or 4 copies of the global script (scripts a-d) for safety: it checks whether
a) the NPC already has a script running
b) if not whether the global script a-d are already running

Starts a targeted script that is currently not in use on the NPC (and stops it again based on distance). That is fairly safe, if you can estimate the maximum number of NPC's that you could have at the same time.





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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: GhanBuriGhan]
      #2841640 - 07/24/04 02:06 AM

You see why people like GBG have my respect; they think up neat little workarounds and doges that I really like. It's the background in formal Philosophy - I love tricksy little loopholes . And it makes them good scripters.

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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: GhanBuriGhan]
      #2841974 - 07/24/04 03:58 AM

Or...

Write the global script so that it does not care whether it runs every frame or not and make it self terminating each frame so the script can pick up from whichever state it is in and do the apropriate things in a single 'hit'. Then you can call this script on your target at any time and if it doesnt run on your target this frame try again next frame until it fires.

Now where to store the state while running the same script on multiple NPCs, how about all those unused stats, I dont think the NPC will mind if you boost his resistcorprus stat to whichever value you like. And it works in savegames too pretty much.

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Re: Experiments with Targetted Scripts [Re: GhanBuriGhan]
      #2843266 - 07/24/04 10:14 AM

Quote:

You could still use something like my combat moves plugin with 3 or 4 copies of the global script (scripts a-d) for safety: it checks whether
a) the NPC already has a script running
b) if not whether the global script a-d are already running

Starts a targeted script that is currently not in use on the NPC (and stops it again based on distance). That is fairly safe, if you can estimate the maximum number of NPC's that you could have at the same time.




Yeah, I thought of that. I think I'll just do individual scripts though. That will let me code in locations of things which will make it all easy. I need to stop thinking complex.

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